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* The 2621B terminal came with the system but cannot be connected (no serial ports).  The terminal originally worked but broke down in the mid 1990's.
 
* The 2621B terminal came with the system but cannot be connected (no serial ports).  The terminal originally worked but broke down in the mid 1990's.
 
* Monitor has mold spots under the front glass.  This looks ugly and makes text hard to read.
 
* Monitor has mold spots under the front glass.  This looks ugly and makes text hard to read.
* Can exchange programs/data with outside world through use of a PC with HPIB card and HPDrive software
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== To Do ==
 
== To Do ==
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== Notes ==
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== Data Exchange ==
  
* The 3,5" floppy cannot be used. The media test program included on the B.7.00 system disk shows an X2,3,0 device, but says it is unsupported.  Also the hpmuseum.net claims a 250 cannot use 3,5" disks.
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I used [http://www.hp9845.net/9845/projects/hpdrive/ HP Drive] to exchange software between the 250 and the outside world.
  
* The ROM can only boot from 8" flex disc (see page 351/11 of the HP 250 Service Handbook found on [http://hpmuseum.net HP Museum]).  Setting the thumbwheel switch on the processor board to 8. => it ran a memory test.  So it must have the old ROMs for which there is no setting to boot anything else than the 9895 8" floppy or a 7910 hard disc.
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For this I used a pentium 1 PC with Windows 98 and a [[GPIB]] card.
  
* With the excellent help from Jon Johnston of [http://hpmuseum.net HP Museum] I was able to restore the missing utilities disc from an image file he sent as well as additional software including a games disc which is great for demo purposes.
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Also HPDir allows to access the files from the image or a real HP mass storage device. However I had some trouble using it, it seems to be not entirely compatible.
  
== HPDrive ==
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[[File:RIMG3008b.JPG|thumb|]]
  
I used [http://www.hp9845.net/9845/projects/hpdrive/ HP Drive] to exchange software between the 250 and the outside world. 
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== Additional Notes ==
  
For this I used a pentium 1 PC with Windows 98 and a [[GPIB]] card.
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* The 3,5" floppy cannot be used.  The media test program included on the B.7.00 system disk shows an X2,3,0 device, but says it is unsupported.  Also the hpmuseum.net claims a 250 cannot use 3,5" disks.
  
Also HPDir allows to access the files from the image or a real HP mass storage deviceHowever I had some trouble using it, it seems to be not entirely compatible.
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* The ROM can only boot from 8" flex disc (see page 351/11 of the HP 250 Service Handbook found on [http://hpmuseum.net HP Museum])Setting the thumbwheel switch on the processor board to 8. => it ran a memory test.  So it must have the old ROMs for which there is no setting to boot anything else than the 9895 8" floppy or a 7910 hard disc.
  
[[File:RIMG3008b.JPG|thumb|]]
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* With the excellent help from Jon Johnston of [http://hpmuseum.net HP Museum] I was able to restore the missing utilities disc from an image file he sent as well as additional software including a games disc which is great for demo purposes.

Revision as of 00:29, 2 September 2010

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Specification

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Origin

  • Acquired in 1991. The seller only asked the price of the extra HP-IB cable he bought for it. He presumably got it for free from the original owner (an insurance agency).

Condition

  • Generally works, boots, can print and access HD
  • The 2621B terminal came with the system but cannot be connected (no serial ports). The terminal originally worked but broke down in the mid 1990's.
  • Monitor has mold spots under the front glass. This looks ugly and makes text hard to read.


To Do

  • Fix the mold spots. This is a known problem and has been discussed on the cctech mailing list. E.g. here and here.
  • Restore the backup files from the discs that came from the original owner. I don't know what's in there. You need to know the protection code but there should be a way to circumvent that.
  • Send a (bug) report to Ansgar Kückes (the author of the HPDir project) detailing my experiences on using his tools with a 250.
RIMG2990b.JPG

Data Exchange

I used HP Drive to exchange software between the 250 and the outside world.

For this I used a pentium 1 PC with Windows 98 and a GPIB card.

Also HPDir allows to access the files from the image or a real HP mass storage device. However I had some trouble using it, it seems to be not entirely compatible.

RIMG3008b.JPG

Additional Notes

  • The 3,5" floppy cannot be used. The media test program included on the B.7.00 system disk shows an X2,3,0 device, but says it is unsupported. Also the hpmuseum.net claims a 250 cannot use 3,5" disks.
  • The ROM can only boot from 8" flex disc (see page 351/11 of the HP 250 Service Handbook found on HP Museum). Setting the thumbwheel switch on the processor board to 8. => it ran a memory test. So it must have the old ROMs for which there is no setting to boot anything else than the 9895 8" floppy or a 7910 hard disc.
  • With the excellent help from Jon Johnston of HP Museum I was able to restore the missing utilities disc from an image file he sent as well as additional software including a games disc which is great for demo purposes.