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HP 250 model 45252A (option 004,012)
 
HP 250 model 45252A (option 004,012)
 
* 256K RAM
 
* 256K RAM
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* Generally works, boots system A.03.04 and B.7.00, can print and access HD
 
* Generally works, boots system A.03.04 and B.7.00, can print and access HD
 
* Monitor has mold spots under the front glass making text hard to read
 
* Monitor has mold spots under the front glass making text hard to read
* 8" drive fails intermittent (boot fails)
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* boot fails sometimes
 
* Utilities disk is missing (needed to copy disks)
 
* Utilities disk is missing (needed to copy disks)
 
* Currently no way to exchange programs/data with outside world.
 
* Currently no way to exchange programs/data with outside world.
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* The ROM can only boot from 8" flex disc (see page 351/11 of the HP 250 Service Handbook found on [http://hpmuseum.net HP Museum]).  Setting the thumbwheel switch on the processor board to 8. => it ran a memory test.  So it must have the old ROMs for which there is no setting to boot anything else than the "floppy" or a 7910 hard disk (which I don't have)
 
* The ROM can only boot from 8" flex disc (see page 351/11 of the HP 250 Service Handbook found on [http://hpmuseum.net HP Museum]).  Setting the thumbwheel switch on the processor board to 8. => it ran a memory test.  So it must have the old ROMs for which there is no setting to boot anything else than the "floppy" or a 7910 hard disk (which I don't have)
  
* The [http://www.hp9845.net/9845/projects/hpdrive/ HP Drive] projects seems to be a way to exchange data between the 250 and the outside world.  It uses a PC with HPIB card to act as a mass storage device for old HP computers such as the 250.  The Ima2hpi utility on the same site allows to convert teledisk images (such as found on hpmuseum.net) to raw images usable by hpdrive.  Also HPDir allows to access the files from the image or a real HP mass storage device.  (however, connecting the internal 8" drive of the 250 to a PC may be non-trivial as the HPIB controller of the drive is in the 250 main frame).
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* The [http://www.hp9845.net/9845/projects/hpdrive/ HP Drive] projects seems to be a way to exchange data between the 250 and the outside world.  It uses a PC with HPIB card to act as a mass storage device for old HP computers such as the 250.  The Ima2hpi utility on the same site allows to convert teledisk images (such as found on hpmuseum.net) to raw images usable by hpdrive.  Also HPDir allows to access the files from the image or a real HP mass storage device.
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== HPDrive / HPDir ==
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I've set up a pentium 1 PC with Windows 98 and an GPIB ISA card.
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== Using HPDrive ==
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Make an 7910 image file and initialize it.
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Emulat a 7910 drive with
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  hpdrive -d -a 7 -7910 7910.hpi
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== Booting from HPDrive ==

Revision as of 20:21, 2 July 2010

HP 250 model 45252A (option 004,012)

  • 256K RAM
  • Internal 8" drive
  • External 9133 (3,5" floppy + 15MB hard disk)
  • 2631B Line printer

Condition

  • Generally works, boots system A.03.04 and B.7.00, can print and access HD
  • Monitor has mold spots under the front glass making text hard to read
  • boot fails sometimes
  • Utilities disk is missing (needed to copy disks)
  • Currently no way to exchange programs/data with outside world.

To Do

  • Fix the mold spots. This is a known problem and has been discussed on the cctech mailing list. E.g. here and here.
  • Find a way to transfer software from the outside world. HP Museum has a number of disk images with software for the 250/260. But you need a 260 to copy them from 3,5" to 8". I see following solutions:
    • Connect an 8" drive to a PC (see [1]), convert the 3,5" teledisk images found on hpmuseum to 8" using the utilities found at [2] and write them to a real 8" disk.
    • Find a HPIB PC card suitable for HPDrive, convert the 3,5" teledisk images found on hpmuseum to 8" raw image and let the PC serve as a drive for the 250. This is better solution as it allows to boot the 250 should the 8" drive ever fail.

Notes

  • The 3,5" floppy cannot be used. The media test program included on the B.7.00 system disk shows an X2,3,0 device, but says it is unsupported. Also the hpmuseum.net claims a 250 cannot use 3,5" disks.
  • The ROM can only boot from 8" flex disc (see page 351/11 of the HP 250 Service Handbook found on HP Museum). Setting the thumbwheel switch on the processor board to 8. => it ran a memory test. So it must have the old ROMs for which there is no setting to boot anything else than the "floppy" or a 7910 hard disk (which I don't have)
  • The HP Drive projects seems to be a way to exchange data between the 250 and the outside world. It uses a PC with HPIB card to act as a mass storage device for old HP computers such as the 250. The Ima2hpi utility on the same site allows to convert teledisk images (such as found on hpmuseum.net) to raw images usable by hpdrive. Also HPDir allows to access the files from the image or a real HP mass storage device.

HPDrive / HPDir

I've set up a pentium 1 PC with Windows 98 and an GPIB ISA card.

Using HPDrive

Make an 7910 image file and initialize it.


Emulat a 7910 drive with

hpdrive -d -a 7 -7910 7910.hpi


Booting from HPDrive